“…says that phosphine cannot really, they don't know of any inorganic process that is capable of creating phosphine. All the processes on Earth seem to involve life. Do you think that suggests that maybe life forms on Venus and other planets as well? Very possible, but I don't think they have a broad enough conception of what life is. I think there are probably life equivalents that have gone down very different routes for making organisms. I think of it as a basic reflex of being, of matter itself, that is a starting point of life.”