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Nothing is more expensive than bad information. Know the source, oneradionetwork.com. - Well, welcome to hour two or part two or whatever you wanna call it, of our little show here we do virtually every morning, except for maybe Thursdays or so, on oneradionetwork.com. My name is Patrick Timpone, and on the third Monday of the month, second part of the show, we have Dr. Ray Peat on PhD, and you'll meet him in just a second. Let me just give a quick little plug what's gonna happen tomorrow. Christine Northrup is going to be on the show.
She's really an interesting lady. I think you're going to enjoy her. Paul Ryder and Brandon Smith on Wednesday, and they're both into the geopolitical, financial world, and I think you're gonna find both of them well worth listening to. So that's coming up Wednesday. Probably somebody else during this week too. Dr. Jennifer Daniels next week, Richard Mayberry next week. A lot of cool things coming up. We're gonna have a 4th of July special with Jack Graham, and he's gonna tell you some things about the Declaration of Independence that you said, "Whoa,"
or the revolution, and that's not possible. So that's all coming up. So join us now, and please just use the email this morning. For some reason, for some reason, we just can't get the 800 number to be working this morning, so we'll work on that, have it for you tomorrow. Ray Peat, a PhD, University of Oregon. He specialized in physiology. He started his work on hormones way back 50 years ago. I was getting out of the military, or in the military, and Ray Peat was working on hormones in 1968. He wrote his dissertation
with outlining the ideas on progesterone and hormones, so he's been at it for a very long time. And as I said, on the third Monday of every month, Dr. Ray Peat is with us, and he's right here. Good morning, sir, how are you? - Good morning, very well. - Well, you sound very well. How do you spend most of your days these days? - Reading, a little pending. - I'm sorry, the last-- - Mostly just reading, but occasionally painting some. - Painting, too, huh? And what kind of things do you read?
- Oh, most recently, I was reading about a trial in Spain, the murder of the six Jesuits and their housekeeper and her daughter. After 31 years, they're finally bringing the vice, vice-minister, I think it is, of defense to trial in Spain for murdering their priest. - So you just go for things that are just interesting to you, not necessarily always in the health realm. - No, no, I try to keep up a little bit on the news. - So you sent me your last newsletter, thanks for that, and you're saying that your argument of this,
and I'm just gonna read the first line, as in I read it with Dr. Massey, is a failure of energy metabolism limits the ability of cells to return from an excited active state to a stable resting state. An unresolved excitation causes cells to emit signals indicating the need for repair, inflammatory signals. Pre-existing inflammation is associated with high altitude sickness and the ability to get sick from the coronavirus as well as chronic diseases. This implies that treatment for a so-called coronavirus infection should be to reduce cellular excitation and inflammation and normalize energy production.
It also implies that these treatments will have favorable effects on cell aging. So Dr. Massey was talking earlier, and I wonder if this ties in. So is it possible that the lungs and the cells were doing something in response to the body's fear or angst or anything or? - Yeah, the emotions, a person, for example, a sick person or an extremely old and frail person will often lose control of their emotions and have exaggerated intensity of emotions. That's because the emotional system is stabilized in a young person so that they can experience something very upsetting
and within hours or at most maybe a few days, they'll be all the way back to normal. But if a person's health is a little borderline, fairly moderate emotional shock can linger for weeks and weeks like post-traumatic stress disorder. A very tough person can go through the same experience without the brain consequences. - So I see, so as the organism is stronger, it's easier to deal with the emotions that come up and then let them go and move on. I see. So you're saying that this is, but this is about the lungs as well.
What's the connection there with the lung? - The brain is just an extreme example of what's going on in every kind of cell. The idea of excitation and recovery, you see it in the nerve as an electrical and chemical change in which you disturb the nerve and it goes into an extreme metabolically intense process and then as it builds up its ATP again, it goes back to the resting state and is ready for another stimulus. Exactly that same thing happens in secretory cells, for example. You irritate it and it'll give a burst of secretion
and then if there's energy and oxygen, sugar being supplied, it'll quickly recover its ability to secrete again. The lung surface cells, for example, some of them are secreting mucus, others secrete various smaller molecules, but everything is metabolically active and irritation intensifies that activity and energy helps it return to its ready to work resting state. - So is it possible that folks who maybe were sheltered in place and going through stress and being kind of confined, that when they are quote unquote allowed to get back out, that the body could be healing, which could demonstrate symptoms
that they're actually sick? - Oh, oh, for sure. Especially if they've lost their job or their business while being shut down. It's the bigger consequences. For some people it's believing what Fauci and Gates are telling them and believing that there's really a special pandemic going on this year or something. Radically different from last year. - Is it your research and opinion then that the body then does show symptoms when it's actually getting healing rather than being sick with inflammation and such? - If you're really strong and healthy, you can heal a slight wound without inflammation
like a healthy fetus. For example, a surgeon takes a sample of tissue and if the mother is healthy, the wound will heal without inflammation and without leaving a scar. And a very healthy young person will take a wound that'll close right up without making a big sore inflamed area. It just sort of relaxes back into place and starts closing up the wound. - So it's the idea then, the stronger and stronger we are, the more we can do without being sore, like exercising and stuff like that. If we haven't for a while,
the body's gonna react more severely and more. - Yeah. For example, an old person who suddenly decides to do-- - Exercise. - Weight lifting or whatever will probably have lingering symptoms for three or four days where a young person would be sore overnight maybe but be entirely back in a day or so. - Dr. Ray Peat is with us and you can get that newsletter. And it's raypeatnewsletter, right? At gmail.com? - At gmail.com. - Yeah, and Patrick Timpona here with you. And as I said, the 800 numbers are off
so just do the email thing right now, [email protected]. As you know, Dr. Peat, more and more states are now reporting more cases and they use that term, of course, cases. And I guess they're tying it into the idea that if you are tested and you're positive, then you are a case, right? So they're reporting more cases. And the governor of Florida came out and said, "Well, yeah, we are, but we're testing 30,000 people a day." So he's kind of catching on to this idea. Can you explain to us this test that they're doing?
Can you really help us understand exactly what it is testing and what it is not? - Well, even the Centers for Disease Control didn't know what they were testing. They were mixing the numbers for both kinds, both major types of tests together. So it was ridiculous. People on the staff and professors were shocked when they learned that the numbers didn't mean anything because they were mixing two totally different types of tests that one showed the presence of the virus, the other showed immunity to the virus. So the government itself has been probably deliberately
covering up, blurring, essentially destroying meaningful information. - So the test today that is being given, and they have this swab thing and even drive-thrus and lots of people are doing it, are they, is it possible that they can actually show a virus that is COVID-19 that is separate from other kind of stuff in the body? Can they really, can they do that? - To a certain extent, it can show. Some, sometimes it can be right, but it's often a false positive. Junk, junk will sometimes cause the reaction.
- So junk or antibodies and things like that actually shows up as an actual virus? - Well, other pieces of RNA can get amplified and the presence of a certain stretch of RNA is older, amplifying and measuring with the polymerase chain reaction test. And if they find the presence of the virus, the fact that somewhere between 35 and 80% of people can have the virus present and no symptoms at all. So what does it mean if they find the virus present? It can be just a few stray viruses that might be stuck somewhere or not,
since as many as 80% of the people don't have any symptoms when they have the virus. The presence of a positive test usually is meaningless. Usually it means that they're simply not reacting to a virus, so it isn't a pathogen. - So if there's a corona COVID, what's the correct term? Is it COVID-19, that's the actual virus that they claim? - Yeah. - So, okay, so if this test can show a COVID-19 in the PCR tests they're giving in some cases, then that means that that exists. I mean, it must exist then, right, somewhere.
- Yeah, they argue that it is the number 19 rather than last year's, right? Or some, there are so many of them and they're changing so often that you don't really know for sure what the test was standardized on. - I see, so what you're saying, I hear you say it could show up some kind of a corona-type viruses and there's a lot of them, but we don't know that much about it, if it's very special, where it came from, is it communicable? - Yeah, these people who make, they get a sample
that they declare to be the real thing. - Right. - And then you really have to test the test to see whether what it's finding is meaningful. - Yes, sir. - But they just haven't done any big testing. The FDA rushed them into use without testing the test. So you can show that over and over, it will truly reflect the standard you have in the lab. Yes, it's amplifying that and has a very high reliability for that known virus, but when you go out and test it on people without standardizing the test,
you don't know how much, how sensitive it is to discriminating against junk RNA. - I see, how long would it take, in your opinion, to do that correctly? - Several months, probably thousands of people would have to be tested, doing multiple tests when you get a positive and examining them more carefully to see what the positive consists of, for example. You should have to test, examine, looking for other coronaviruses. If you find other coronavirus positives in the person who tested positive for COVID-19, then that weakens the meaning of your test.
If you aren't testing for other related things, how do you know for sure what you have found? - So all of these different flu and cold viruses, my understanding, they are a corona genre type virus. There's a lot of them? - Yeah, the coronavirus has been known to cause colds for decades. - So there's no evidence, then, that whatever this COVID-19 is that they've called is any different or stronger or unique? Is there any evidence? - Very, very little evidence. The best evidence, the Stanford professors, about three months ago, were getting different ways
of looking at existing evidence and studies on people in California and looking at the cruise ship that was infected. Both of those approaches showed that it was very similar to the standard flu pathogenicity, and possibly less, but in the vicinity of a fraction of 1% mortality of those infected, which is in the range of the annual flu viruses. - Dr. Rapide, is it possible that whatever these PCR tests are seeing that they're claiming is a unique coronavirus could be being produced by the body, an endosome or an exosome has been argued?
- Oh, our DNA is full of stuff that looks like RNA viruses. Some people say that it's half of our DNA, which is about twice as much DNA as we need for our genes that construct all of us. So there is this mysterious, dark, non-genetic DNA, which gives signs of being related to the RNA viruses. And so it's very possible that stored in this immense amount of DNA, that there are already some overlapping bits of RNA. When you're under stress, we put out exosomes, and they're in the same size range
and structural composition of this type of virus, very similar under the microscope, little round particles that are synthesized in a certain part of the cell and stream out of the cell being secreted in the blood. But under stress, these are repair particles. Injured cells will send signals, for example, to the bone marrow, and the bone marrow will manufacture exosome material containing RNA and DNA and proteins that help to repair the injured cells in other parts of the body. The stem cell system is largely regulated through these exosomes and internal communication system.
And so the stress that turns those on happens to be the stress that the viruses use to activate their own synthesis and secretion. - So is it possible then that stress or poisons or other insults on the body could be producing an exosome that looks just like a virus and is being identified as a virus? - Yeah, the important thing is that if the official government-approved researchers won't even look at this gigantic part of our DNA system, they're going to question whether we already have some very similar coronavirus-type RNA in our reservoir of genetic information,
which will come out under stress. If you don't look at it, you'll never find it. - So is it possible that people under stress, having to wear a mask, having to stay home, losing their job, worried about their finances and their family could be creating these exosomes that could be shown up then as a virus? - Any stress can increase your exosome manufacture, but it's a fairly small industry to study of the exosome system. The basic problem is that it was denied as contrary to the basic dogma of genetics and molecular biology.
It's the epigenetic system. RNA viruses were said to be impossible because of the dogma that says information goes only from DNA to RNA to protein. And so for a virus to contain only RNA, but to get into our DNA went in the wrong direction. So the whole thing required about, well, 50 years ago it started, but the scientific community gradually adapted to accept that RNA viruses are a real thing, but seeing the whole genome, the whole DNA content of cells, seeing that as active and functional, that's the hard part.
They just prefer not to get involved in that, especially as it relates to immunity because it opens up the area of doubt about a million fold. - Doubt for the germ theory vaccines and pharmaceuticals. - Yeah, basically the antibody vaccine theory would totally melt away into nothing if people started looking at the actual immune system. - Wow, so Dr. Rapey, then was this what Pasteur was arguing, that there are RNA things out there, viruses that are separate from us and can attack us? I mean, that was his premise, right?
- Yeah, there are things out there, but the dogma says that they originated separately and what the evidence looks like is that these circulating viruses, probably since they can't evolve, they can't exist except in a higher organism. You can't evolve a lower thing like a virus if its existence depends on a mammal, for example. You can't conceive of it coming into existence de novo, so you have to see it as a product of a higher organism. We or other organisms under stress create exosomes. Some of these get emitted into the environment
and they spread information between organisms. The way bacteria, if one bacterium is exposed to an antibiotic, it can produce a little particle, a bacteria equivalent of an exosome, having the genes which make it able to resist the antibiotic and it will approach another bacterium of a different strain even, or even a different species. There's evidence that this particle can be transmitted across a fair genetic difference. So one bacterium sends out a little tube connecting it to another bacterium that wasn't exposed and passes this particle of genetic information and the other bacterium can then integrate it
and reproduce and all of its descendants will be immune to antibiotic. So if bacteria can do it, it's only the genetic dogma of one-way information that makes people resistant to looking at the transmission of these particles between organisms. So if you're around stress organisms, this approach would say you're at risk of catching their stress. - So let's see, so say a husband is stressed and creates exosomes and starts the process of healing, I suspect, then the wife could experience the same thing because? He's gonna teach her body, help her body
to learn how to become immune from this thing. - Yeah, the basic principle would probably be like the bacteria, the bacteria adapted and passed its adaptation onto its neighbors and the mechanism as far as it exists in plants and animals would be to pass these useful repair units onto other members of the family. - Yes, so that could be possible than just a kind of a God, whatever you wanna call it, evolutionary process to make the species stronger. Everybody's helping everybody to get stronger, essentially, is what I hear you saying.
- Yeah, yeah, there have been people making good arguments for this among plants in particular, going back 50, 60 years. - So do we always have to feel symptoms, flu-like headache or whatever, when we take on one of these little repair guys to get stronger, do we have to feel bad? - No, not at all. - Oh, okay. - The fact that they're finding positive RNA evidence of the virus in people who don't have any symptoms at all, maybe 80% of the people don't feel anything from it, so it's being passed on and probably integrated
and creating better immunity, 80% of the people. But if you have a sick, stressed, unhappy, malnourished population, they are going to have trouble adapting. - Okay, so there will be some people that will die, or could die, right, because they're just sick or compromised in preconditions and the rest of it. - Yeah, that would be the 1/10 to 1/4 of 1% infected. - Yeah, what's happening, because of age and preconditions. That's that's-- - Yeah, in Spain, or Italy, the mortality of men is 70%, about almost three times greater mortality,
but it's especially old men and young women. The only young women that were dying were very, very sick individuals, menstruating women of ordinary health were extremely resistant to the infection. - Is there any evidence that the mortality rate of this particular virus or this particular flu season is any more severe than others, other years? - Not really, these figures suggest that it's a fairly typical year for mortality. A few people have been watching a very odd thing in the CDC figures. Starting last fall, we were noticing a very unhistorical decline
in the total national mortality, a dip. People just weren't dying of anything as often as they should. Old age or accidents or whatever normally kill people. There was a great drop in mortality. Week after week, and 15% in many weeks through the winter. And suddenly, in the first week of April, the people who had been missing from the national mortality, suddenly there was this spike in excess mortality. If you somehow had a block between the reporting of the deaths starting last fall and the recording of them in the CDC,
and then suddenly you broke the barrier to recording these deaths, that could account for this huge spike in excess mortality because there had been a buildup of deficient mortality for weeks. - So this whole idea of the so-called second wave, what would you expect, just knowing what you, understand how this works, if people start to come out of their shelter in place, take off their mask, and don't do the six feet and all that, could we expect to see symptomatics being, you know, whatever they mean, more? And then if people get tested more,
the numbers could theoretically, quote, get worse, unquote. Possible? - Yeah, I think that's what's happening. - That's what's happening. - They're confusing the result of testing more. They're saying, look, we're catching a lot of infections. That means it's increasing, but people don't necessarily get sick when they have the virus in them. So you shouldn't be looking at anything except who is sick. - Yeah, and so in your opinion, who is running the show here on a big picture coming up with this story? Is it the WHO and the CDC?
And who's involved in this, do you have any idea? - Both of them. They're tightly integrated with the pharmaceutical industry. They are now just another agency controlled by not only the pharmaceutical industry, but if you look at what happened last fall in the Federal Reserve System, they started putting out that $6 trillion into the economy last fall before anyone was talking about a virus at all. And then there was historically a big wave of resignations of CEOs of the biggest corporations late last fall, long before the stock market crash. So they had inside news.
I saw a video in which Bill Gates was saying, "We were totally unprepared. "We weren't anticipating this at all. "We need to do better "and be anticipating further waves of infection." But he was one of the motivators of a program to model and create a play of how they would respond to it. They had leaders of industry and finance and the health systems pharmaceutical industry get together last October and anticipate how they would respond to a pandemic caused by a coronavirus imported into the United States. So it was all sketched out
that they would have a dramatic new way of responding to a pandemic. And a pandemic isn't necessarily a big thing. There can be an international wave of cold. Doesn't mean it's going to be anything deadly or very harmful. - Are you speaking of the 2001 thing that they had? - Event 201. - Yeah, Event 201, that was sponsored by the Gates. - Yeah, yeah. - Yeah, very interesting. Dr. Ray Peat is with us, Patrick Timpone on Radionetwork.com. He's here on the third Monday at around 10.30. Started a few minutes late. Stay right there, Dr. Peat.
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- Know the source, One Radio Network. - Dr. Ray Peat, who's been at this health investigative and game for 50 years now. You had your PhD 50 years ago, Doc. - I'm, actually, it was in 1972. - Oh, '72. - Yeah. - Wow, 40 years ago, yeah. What did you, when you were back there doing your PhD and the whole hormone thing, what was your kind of vision of where you, did you have an idea of where you wanted to go with all of this back there 40 years ago? - Oh, yeah.
In 1970, I sketched out about five ideas that I thought might be acceptable to the establishment in the next 10 or 20, at most, by the end of the century. And one of those, I wrote up, sent to a journal, and it was published, Gilbert Ling was the editor of that journal, published in 1971. And I was sure that those ideas, that there was so much movement in that direction, I thought they would be the standard by the 1990s. And it's true that the supporting evidence has been very heavy in that direction.
But the power from the pharmaceutical industry to return to the 1950 paradigm of how the body works is so great that despite all of the movement in physics, chemistry, and cell physiology, the investment in medical school, advertising, product promotion, and so on, has been able to blot that out, stigmatize the actual facts, so that the dogma is now riding so far above the evidence that you see the journals reacting to the COVID problem in a basically insane way. I scanned through the PubMed what the journals were saying about nitric oxide, for example.
There's overwhelming recommendation in the journals to treat COVID by having the person breathe nitric oxide or take drugs that will increase its production. Pulmonary hypertension has been actually treated by giving them sildenafil, what's the male erection drug called, to create more nitric oxide as a treatment for lung problems. But in fact, inflammation anywhere, especially in the lungs, creates more nitric oxide. Nitric oxide creates inflammation and tissue damage. And people who are susceptible to lung disease, for example, the people before they go to a high altitude, the ones who are going to get altitude sickness
with COVID-like symptoms in their lungs, these people are already at sea level exhaling more nitric oxide than normal. And as they ascend, the nitric oxide increases and develops into pulmonary respiratory problems, edema of the lungs. So they take some mechanical dogma promoted by drug salesmen, saying that this is how the drug works and that it will kill viruses, for example. So it's appropriate. But it means that they're recommending the harmful things. At the same time, they're denying, like Lancet immediately came out with a journal article saying do not give a treatment
that would be appropriate for high altitude pulmonary edema. Don't use Losartan, for example. And when all of this proves to be absolutely 180 degrees false, they'll just blindly go on and say, well, that never happened. We always recommended anti-inflammatory things and treating the symptoms and so on. - In simplistic terms, in '71, when you submitted this article to Gilbert Ling, what was the basic differences, what you were saying, how the body works and what the AMA and the rest were saying? - For example, that the cell is structured
all the way down to the atomic level. Water is organized in the healthy living state and the disorganization of the cell, starting with the water, can be measured. You can see the precancerous conditions by measuring the water. And you can see the effect of aging, stress, estrogen excess as changes in the water structure. In the animal, it'll happen half of a lifespan away from the terminal state, but you can see it coming if you look at the fine structure of the cell, especially the water. - So what Pollack and other people are arguing,
Dr. Pollack, the water structure inside our body is important. - Oh yeah. - Yeah, wow. - It's the idea that the cell energy exists in the form of structure. - Structure. And there is evidence that 5G and other electromagnetic fields disrupts the structure of the water in the body. - Yeah, in 1968, just before I went to start graduate school, I visited a lab in Russia, Yuri Holodov, who had been studying electromagnetic and magnetic fields effects on cell water, cell structure. And he gave me a great list of studies that had already been done.
And those just generally weren't available and were totally unknown in US science. - And what year was this? - '68. - '68, this was pre-cell phones. He was talking about what kind of electrical forces. - He was using all sorts of direct, steady magnetic fields, but the worst are particular frequencies that the cell resonates to. - Has there ever been any studies with cell phones or cell phone towers and Wi-Fi's tying all this in together? - Oh, yeah, lots of studies, but the proportion of them focusing on how it acts on water structure,
it's still very small. - Are most of the studies they've done with the potential ill effects of cell phones are just simply the heat that comes out of these? Is that correct? - That was the main line story, starting back in 1940s and '50s when sailors were being melted by getting in front of a radar. The scientific response was it's all the heat, and that has gone on all through the last century, claiming that there is no effect other than heat. And so if the energy level is too small to heat the cell,
that then there's nothing else it can do. That ignores the fact all radiation interacts with matter with a sort of an antenna effect. An antenna for radio or television is stretching a conductor out through space, so it absorbs long wave energy and allows it to be directed to your detector. But x-rays and ultraviolet and so on, molecular electronic resonance within a molecule or inside an atom, it's still the principle of an antenna. The wavelength relating to the structure that is organized will act on that structure and excite it, change its chemical properties and so on.
And if you deny that there is any meaningful structure between the molecular size and the whole cell size, then you are deliberately blinding yourself to all of these antenna effects that relate to frequencies that can resonate with all of the size ranges between a molecule and a cell or an organ. In studies with monkeys and rats, they found that the wavelength equivalent to the size of the brain or the capsule around any organ is more toxic than wavelengths. For example, if you have a wavelength that's an inch long or three inches long,
the inch long will affect glands of that size. For example, the gonads, the one that's three inches long will affect the brain more than the gonads. And the same principle applies to all of the levels downward, especially all of the levels of organization inside the cell. - So you're saying that if the basic structure is denied by the science, then are you saying they'll never get to the truth of the effects of VMFs? - Yeah, part of that denial is to say that everything that happens inside the cell
is like the reactions that would happen in a test tube. It's molecules in solution simply, and it's the membrane that acts like the test tube. All of standard biochemistry is committed to this dogma that if you grind up a cell and put it in a test tube with a watery solution, you can infer anything that happens in the test tube to what happens in the cell because it's all a matter of randomness in solution, even though you grind up the cell and destroy the life of the cell, which is what you were trying to study.
- You're painting the picture, if we are allowing this dogma to control the science behind all of the EMFs, it doesn't really paint a very favorable picture for consumers to ever have this technology get fixed or slowed down or stopped. - Yeah, and people just have to start seeing that the science that's used as a marketing tool to say it's all safe, don't study it anymore, it applies to actually every part of the medical pharmaceutical industries because they're all denying the meaning of structure in the cell. - Oh, including the AMA? - Oh yeah.
- The structure of the cell. So how did you get onto this so early on? What was your awakening moment? - Gradually, political, listening to politicians and discovering that they're all lying almost all the time made me suspicious of, especially when politics and medicine get connected. I started listening for the lies and saw that not only medicine, but basic science, they don't want any questions asked about their assumptions. I spoke to a few famous biochemists and asked them if they didn't think that it would be better to use techniques
that studied biochemistry and biophysics inside cells rather than squashing the cell, putting it in a test tube. And they just laughed and scoffed and what a ridiculous idea. - Dr. Ray Peters with his PhD. We're gonna dig back and get some leftovers from last month. And I'm sorry we get behind because it's so fascinating talking with this man. Here is an email, Dr. Peat. It was about, they wanted to know about the time off, progestease as in a natural cycle when ingested or rub on the gums. And he said, which he did answer,
but I did want to know if time off is also necessary if it is used only by rubbing into skin and also if that would be the same for male. - Oh, it's when you're using big doses that you feel systemically. That's where the liver becomes more and more active at excreting it when you're getting these big doses on the level of a normal menstrual cycle. And after two weeks of using it, your liver is throwing it off quickly. So it would only keep rising if you became pregnant.
And that means that if you are not pregnant and have to keep dosing it, that the dose would have to increase in proportion to the liver's activity. So to make it more efficient, laying off for a week or two lets your liver reset so that you're not excreting it so fast. But if you're just using it for a topical effect, for like a sprain or a burn or something, your local effect is not gonna be harmed. - Here's an email from Rose. She said, "I've been on Synthroid for 30 years.
"And because of the current virus, "I've been starting to take my temperature "in about 96 1/2 to 97 1/2. "What can I do to cause my thyroid "to function more normally?" She wants to get her temperature up. - The conversion especially happens mostly in the liver, but in each tissue that needs energy, it requires glucose and selenium to do the conversion. And women, by having a higher estrogen production, automatically have a weaker thyroid function systemically. That's why women have about five times the rate of thyroid problems because the estrogen affects the liver and the thyroid.
- And then she wants to know how she could get her thyroid to make, you know, to be just better. - Sometimes selenium or getting more sugar in the diet, like orange juice, more frequently, sometimes that will get the conversion going. But sometimes a few doses of progesterone can shift the balance, activating the thyroid gland and liver, which will then tend to stabilize your blood sugar so that the glucose is available for doing the conversion of T4 to T3. - All right, interesting. Mark wants to know,
"What do I take for a cold sore and what causes them?" - Oh, it's almost always a herpes virus. And the stress, systemic stress, pituitary activation is behind the nerve. It's the same thing. Your energy dips and lets the nerve get excited. And the excitation of the nerve gives the virus a chance to reproduce and travel out to the skin. And so basically keeping your thyroid hormone up so that your blood sugar is stable and doesn't let your nerves go into these stress states of prolonged excitation. And then topically, aspirin. Well, systemically, aspirin is antiviral
as well as anti-inflammatory. So it can reduce the number of outbreaks as well as minimizing the extent of the damage. But putting a concentrated solution of aspirin and alcohol, for example, on the outbreak is a safe way to reduce the growth of the sore and spreading. - So many people have talked about over the years how this little herpes thing doesn't really want to ever go away and it keeps popping back up under stress. Is there something unique with this virus that seems to be, I guess, everywhere? Isn't it that it wants to hang out
and doesn't want to stay more dormant? - I think it's just the stressfulness of society. Not very good diet, electromagnetic stress in the background all the time. - And it just seems to be one of the ones that pop out more frequently. - Yeah. - Yeah, for whatever reason. Here is an email from Eric. He's in Finland, good for Finland. I have heard that as much as 10,000 I use of vitamin E during a pandemic and otherwise a daily basis. So what does Dr. Peat think about this?
Oh, 5,000 every day, but 10,000 during a pandemic of vitamin E. - Vitamin D. - I'm sorry, vitamin, oh D, vitamin D. - Yeah, it overlaps with progesterone in its cell protective stabilizing actions. And it's been recognized as improving immunity against viruses, but it's working on the same energy stabilizing system. It's being considered one of the neuro steroids along with progesterone for brain protective effect. - Just a reminder on One Radio Network and all of our guests, we don't give any kind of medical advice, we're not qualified. We just give ideas about a research
and do as thy will and take responsibility for anything that you do in your life. And we'd like to remind you that, Dr. Peat, this is from Chris in Canada. What could possibly cause sudden drop in blood pressure to something like 79 over 59, making the person's arms feel numb and progressing to the rest of the body just for a minute or two, and then the blood pressure could return to normal. What could possibly be causing that? - Digestive things are sometimes behind it, a surge of toxins from the intestine, for example.
I don't think any particular hormones have been identified for those sudden sharp drops. I think in the background, low thyroid people are more likely to experience those, similar to a person who's been squatting for an hour or so standing up will more likely experience a blacking out. The blood pressure doesn't respond as quickly if you have a background of low thyroid activity. - So the getting dizzy, one, one is down, that was said to be adrenal, but you're suggesting that's a low thyroid. - Yeah, the adrenals don't respond as quickly when your thyroid is low.
- Here's another listener, this one in Europe and Germany from Nuri. "What's the physiological dosage," writes Nuri, "of the T4 thyroid hormone? "I take 175, but I still have hypothyroid symptoms "and tend to have hyperadrenal function, "which I block with propranolol." Propranolol. - T4 isn't the thyroid hormone. It's a precursor to the active hormone. And it's the same as with women, several times more frequently than men. But it can happen in men too, that the conversion of many things, such as a selenium deficient, can make the liver and other tissues reluctant
to convert the T4 to the active hormone. Prolonged stress hormones will tend to make it go the wrong direction, towards reverse T3 rather than active T3. Getting a better diet, but the simplest thing is to use a combination, such as natural. The traditional armor thyroid was what thyroid treatment was based on for the first 50 or 60 years. And then the drug companies got involved testing their T4 product on young male medical students, healthy male young individuals. And they said it worked just like the thyroid hormone, just like the natural thing.
But it's exactly slightly older women who they should have tested it on, because you would have found that in women in their 30s and 40s, for example, just about as often as it improves things, it makes things worse to take only thyroxine. - I see. So what if there are people that offer just, I don't know, it's not desiccated, I guess it's just beef thyroid from grass fed cows, and that's what it is, somehow they dry it. I mean, would you have to be careful taking that? - The government required meat packers
to discard the thyroid gland starting in the early 1940s. Before that, it had been included in sausages. People living on farms would include the thyroid in soups, sausages. Their regular diet would include maybe half a grain equivalent, 30 milligrams of gland, if they were eating chicken or fish or beef sausage regularly. - So just to dry it up, thyroid, these are from, I think, New Zealand. Would that have all the good stuff that people wanted and they could try this instead of the other, you know, pharmaceutical stuff?
- Yeah, the thing is that Armour used to have a standardized way of extracting the fat, the fat and dehydrating it and testing the potency on mice, every batch. So every Armour thyroid pill was highly standardized with biological testing. And now none of that is done. The preparation is very different. And so you can hardly tell what to expect when you take a natural thyroid product. - I see, so early on, Armour, you were saying were just doing similar to what you could actually get online without a prescription. It's just a beef--
- Yeah, some of them that are deep added and dehydrated and pure stuff will be three times as strong as the old Armour. Very, very potent. And others prepared in a different way will be so weak, you hardly feel the effect if you take 150 milligrams of it. - Very interesting. This is from Thomas, he's in Sweden. Boy, we have a European contingency. Well, these are from last month. I'm still working on last month's emails, God. Let's see, it was quite a nightly problem with leg cramps. And I was trying things like magnesium,
potassium supplements, and it would get really bad if I had indulgence something sweet or salty in the evening. Finally, I understood the best cure for this was almost instantaneous was to limp over to the kitchen and drink a big glass of water. Now, I just wonder what could be the root cause of this if the hydration could have fixed the problem? - Possibly dehydration. - It's just dehydration. - Yeah, the pH of the blood changes if you're suddenly dehydrated. But milk is a very good bedtime snack because it lowers several of the stress,
almost all of the stress hormones are lowered by the content of milk. - So the idea, that's where it comes from, warm glass of milk before bed kind of works. Dr. Peat, somebody wants to know about your soap. Is there any natural soaps that are without proofers? Do we get proofers by using soaps with proofers? - By using what? - By using soap with polyunsaturated fatty acids. - Coconut and olive oils are the traditional best for soaps. And the polyunsaturated fats tend to make the soap go rancid quickly.
So that's why they've historically preferred coconut oil. - Coconut oil. - And olive oil. - Do you think extra virgin, or I think you had a favorite kind of coconut oil, is a good thing for many people, most, you use your words, to consume regularly, like a big glob of it? Is it good for us? - If it's well refined. Some people are very allergic to coconut, so it's good to be cautious. Even some refining doesn't get the, if it has a fragrant coconut odor, then you have to watch out for the allergens.
- But allergic reactions, you're only a cautionary tale for coconut oil? - Yeah, otherwise it's very safe, and helps to oppose the toxic effects of polyunsaturated fats. - Oh, it's a counter to a poofus. - Yeah. - Oh, that's great. But you like to refine because of the allergic, the allergy potential. - Yeah. - Right. - Some people will have a very strong asthma attack, or hemorrhoids, or other symptoms from it. - Here's an email from Mary. Can Dr. Peat talk about the physiologic role of norepinephrine and noreladrenaline? Norelpinephrine and noreladrenaline.
- It's the norepinephrine, was that the first one? - Yes, norelepinephrine and then noreladrenaline. - They're the same thing. - Same thing, okay. - The nor is the type that nerves, other than the adrenal glands, form, but their effect is very similar. - Here's a good one. 50-year-old woman, slightly overweight, menopausal. I drink milk, OJ, collagen, and honey before bed. I seem to wake up every day at 3 a.m., wide awake, difficult to fall back to sleep. Any thoughts? - It's okay to just wake up and have a snack,
a glass of milk or orange juice. As the liver gets inefficient from such things as PUFA exposure, estrogen exposure, hypothyroid, or other nutritional deficiencies, it becomes less able to store glycogen enough for the whole night. - Hannah's also in Finland. She says, "Can you give some advice "on how to get rid of varicose veins? "Is natural progesterone lotion useful?" - Can help, but getting your estrogen under control, the reason they so commonly develop during pregnancy is not only the pressure on the veins and the pelvis, but the estrogen stops the smooth muscle,
reduces the smooth muscle tone, and progesterone activates a smooth muscle contraction. So getting the ratio in your body systemically in favor of progesterone is the important thing. The veins are just a symptom. Your whole body is experiencing an imbalance, so your health will benefit. If you have a blood test, for example, and get your progesterone at least, depending on your age, but it should be a few times at least greater than the estrogen level. - Here's an interesting question. This is from George. He is in, I don't know where he is.
"When I have something with butter "and a little maple syrup in the middle of the night, "it really helps me to go back to sleep "sometime for four or five hours. "Could this be telling me about my body?" That's a good question. What could that be saying that George's body is needing more of if he has butter and maple syrup? - The maple syrup comes with some very good minerals, a lot of potassium that helps the sugar work, and the sugar is kept in your stomach and intestine longer when there's butter with it.
- That's great. Here's one for you. "Are tamarinds and persimmons good and safe to eat?" - Yes. - Here's one for you. "What are some natural foods and supplements "that Dr. Peat has seen to be successful "in restoring a full head of hair "to a person experiencing what appears to be "male pattern baldness?" Okay. Have you come up with some things over the years that the guys have used to get back their old hair? - It requires changing your whole course of health problems. The hair loss tends to coincide with circulatory problems,
and behind the circulatory problems are metabolic problems. So the things to work on are getting your vitamin D up, your thyroid and progesterone and DHEA up, and your cortisol and the other stress hormones, aldosterone and parathyroid hormone are very destructive to the hair follicle and blood vessels and heart. And so if you change your metabolism, lowering parathyroid hormone and aldosterone and cortisol and all of the stress-related hormones, including prolactin, that's going to save your circulatory system as well as your hair. - So along with everything else, when we react to things in the world
and angst and stress and worry, you can lose hair over that. - Yeah. - And at the same time, your whole health is suffering. - Do we know the physiological phenomenon going on with the gray and why some people gray early? Is there any science behind that, do we know? - Yeah, I've thought about it and experimented with it quite a lot. I started getting individual white eyebrows when I was in my 40s, and I was thinking about the melanin in the brain being deficient in Parkinson's disease. And thinking about what happens in that process,
I realized that an excessive iron competes against copper, and copper is the enzyme that makes the dark pigment, and too much iron will simply get in the way and knock the copper out of your pigment enzymes. And I didn't want to try just eating copper. - Copper, right. - I made a solution, put a penny, a real copper penny. - A real copper penny, yeah. - In a little bottle of water with an aspirin tablet and about half a spoonful of vinegar. So it had two acidic things to help the solvent.
So it was copper aspirinate and copper acetate that I was using in the solution. And I found, I put a drop of that on the white hair and watched it closely. They grow very, very fast. The very next day, and very visibly on the second day, I could see black pigment appearing at the root, just essentially an instantaneous restoration of pigment formation. - Oh, that's pretty cool. So you, go ahead, go ahead. - I did that on several hairs at different stages of their growth. I would find one that was just starting out
with a white tip and applied the copper. And the rest of it would, with just one application, the remaining hair would come out pigmented. - Did you ever do a lot of it and do it on top of your head? Do you have any? - I, after that, I started getting white whiskers on my cheeks and chin. And I thought it would be a good test to put it under my lip on a little tuft of white whiskers. And by that time, the penny had been sitting in the solution for months and was very blue.
And I had a burning sensation and went to wash it off quickly and it kept burning. So I kept dabbing it with water and finally looked to see what had happened that was caused that persistent stinging. And rather than just finding a red area, I found a brown, mole-like elevation all around those white whiskers. It had produced an instant mole, in effect, elevated pigmented cells. - Wow, you did a lot of pigmentation. - Yeah, and changed the structure. The cells had invaded the area. And so I just watched it over a period of a month
that that had leveled out and disappeared. But that got me interested in the phenomenon of pigment cell migration in the skin. And the cells, it turns out that pigment cells can swim through the seemingly solid structure of your skin. They can travel almost an inch a day in warm weather when your skin temperature is around 90 degrees. They can migrate with amazing speed. And I found that if I provided them with the nutrients that they needed, which included copper, that they would, a mole would disperse or move and fade out,
go back to being a normal pigmented skin. - So interesting. So you did the copper, aspirin, and vinegar, right, copper penny? - Yeah, I found that on my sideburns, only about 10% of the white hairs reverted to black pigment formation after one application. And I realized that's because our eyebrows have a lifespan of only about a month. Your facial hairs and head hairs live years. Any one application is only going to affect a small percentage that are in the right phase of growth. - I wonder if there'd be a source of copper
you could experiment with other than trying to find a pre-64 penny. - Yeah, I decided the safest was just to eat more oysters. - Oysters? - Yeah, as a very strong source of copper. - Ah, interesting, yeah. You know, in Ayurvedic medicine, they recommend folks put their water in a copper vessel in the fridge and drink some of that every day. - Yeah, that's safe. - That's pretty safe? - Yeah, it's really fun. - Interesting. Here is Cody in Vero Beach, Florida. I have a question about vaccines.
Dr. Peat had discussed how some vaccines and adjuvants more or less permanently alter our body, being as they, that so many people, even those born as early as 1950s, have been subjected to vaccines and harmful adjuvants since a young age. Are those that had vaccines hopeless and ever having true health? Is the damage of the vaccine significant enough at no amount of good diet, healthy life, and metabolic energy can reverse? - If you look at the inflammatory and degenerative disease trend in young people, starting with the great expansion of vaccination in America
in the late 1980s, the increase of allergies in young people and all of the inflammatory degenerative diseases, there's a steady, sharp increase starting around that year when the vaccine expansion happens. So it's hard to explain this deterioration of health otherwise, and it just makes it more urgent that these people start doing as many things right and to basically start being skeptical about recommendations of the medical system. - Here's some good questions for you that have not been asked before. We like new things. It's always good. Matthias, he says, does doctor believe in the zeitgeist
that proclaims homosexuals are born that way? - Well, there are enough studies in animals as well as people during a stress situation such as famines, pregnancy subjected to extreme stress will cause great changes in their sexual behavior including the sexual preference. - So it could be something that, an idea and a feeling and a tendency that could happen from birth that-- - Yeah, everything that happens to you during gestation is shaping you, your whole system of mental functions, emotions, physical shape, rate of metabolism, all of that.
- This just in, this would be a timely thing. Go ahead and mentioned it. Supreme Court out with a decision today, landmark, which now features two new justices appointed by President Trump, gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans individuals cannot legally be discriminated against by employees, meaning they can't be fired nor hired simply by being LGBTQ. Just out this morning. So that ties in with that. And how does doctor feel about abortion? Wow, they're really going after you this morning. - Feel about what? - Abortions. What's your-- - It's best to control your conception.
But sometimes there's just not a system for properly sustaining the pregnancy in a healthy way. So it's never a good thing in any sense, but avoiding worse things, I think it's a proper thing. - Do you have any theories or thought about when soul comes into the body? - Oh, I think it's there before the body. There's continuity of soul. - In everything, right? - Yeah. - Here's another interesting one. When you're looking back on your life and reflecting what's the advice you would give someone maybe 50 years younger than you.
So Dr. Peat, you've had your body, what, 83 years, right? 83? Is that right? So here's someone saying, okay, I'm 33. What advice can you give me? - Oh, stay alert. (laughing) This is the main thing. Time, times are gonna get worse. - Just stay aware of what's going on in the world. - Yeah. - Couple more, then we'll let you go. Good questions this morning, thanks. What does Dr. Peat think about a water filter through a Berkey water filter? I know it's not reverse osmosis. A lot of credible people seem to like it.
Does it remove fluoride and other things? - I don't know what that kind is. - Yeah, it's just-- - Reverse osmosis is good. - Yeah, I don't know about Berkey either, but our pretty much is it. Dr. Daniels has mentioned on Patrick's show that sauerkraut's used for internal scoring. Do you know about this and can suggest it or add something else? Internal scoring. - What kind of juice? - Sauerkraut, sauerkraut. - Oh, I don't know. The taste tastes nice. If a person finds it pleasing, the salt can be a protective,
a relaxing factor that I don't think has any harmful effects. - This is from JD. Can Dr. Peat give me ideas on getting rid of ulcers? What would you do to help somebody get rid of ulcers? I suspect, I don't know, they're talking about stomach ulcers, right? So is there a connection between some kind of a bacteria, what's it called? - Yeah, the pylori. - Pylori, yeah. What do you know about stomach ulcers? - The stress predisposes the stomach to poor immunity. A properly working digestive system is sterile
and that depends on a complete good nutrition with good thyroid function and getting a vigorous digestive process. Lots of stomach, quick production of digestive fluids, quick peristalsis, all of that will keep your upper digestive tract completely sterile. - Do you think the meme that's out there that as we age, we lose stomach acid, you think there's anything to that? - Yeah, the stress hormones increase and the energy hormones decrease with age. Thyroid becomes less effective because of anti-thyroid factors, inflammatory mediators. The things that promote fibrosis and scarring and atrophy and inflammation
all tend to increase with aging and so all of the energizing anti-inflammatory things offset the aging process. - So could that be a tie-in with people who are not busy and whatever, family disconnect and on medicine in nursing homes that that all just piles on of one another? - Yeah, and the things that have become so obvious with the COVID treatment and the facts of natural immunity to the COVID are revealing new things about how to offset aging because the things that cause the atrophy of aging predispose to the serious symptoms from the virus
and so for example, the low sartan or the infodensin receptor blockers that have been so effective against the symptoms of COVID also offset many of the problems of aging, nerve degeneration, Alzheimer's type things, muscle frailty, osteoporosis, everything. There's no distinction between the degeneration of aging and the degeneration that kills you from a flu infection. - Dr. Ray Peat, final question and then we'll let you go. So in all of your experience being on this planet 83 years and looking at this for 50 years or so, do you think it's at all possible
that a safe and effective virus or this COVID-19, whatever it is, could be available in the fall or even early next year? - A vaccine for it? - Yes, sir. - No, has there ever been a safe and effective vaccine? The whole issue of safety testing has been fraudulent. The CDC disobeyed an order of Congress in not doing safety studies when they gave the pharmaceutical industry immunity from damages caused by killing people with bad vaccines. When they gave them that immunity, they were obligated by Congress to do safety testing and report every two years.
For 30 years, they did absolutely nothing. And the safety testing that has been done, for example, if you think that the aluminum adjuvant has been causing deaths and brain damage, you would test it against a blank, something for sure not containing aluminum, but they used aluminum in the so-called placebo. They used a toxic placebo to measure the toxicity of the vaccine, deliberate, intentional fraud. - So Bobby Kennedy and his group did a FOIA request for safe and effective studies, and they just turned up empty. So you're suggesting that even for measles, mumps,
or rubella, there's never been safe and effective testing does on these guys. - And the same with flu vaccines. - Flu vaccines, never. And I think it's important to look at who the US Public Health Service and the CDC is, who they are, and who the organization has been, what they've been doing historically. During my lifetime, there have been just horrible, incredible scandals that they managed to keep secret. They said if some good organization found out about this, there could be a lot of smoke. For example, that they were infecting orphans
in Guatemala with syphilis as part of a secret experiment, that they were covering up evidence of radiation damage from nuclear accidents in experimental reactors in the United States and from Three Mile Island. They've been on the side of the offenders keeping information from the public. - Dr. Ray Peat, PhD, he's here on the third Monday of every month. Dr. Peat, thanks so much for your time once a month. We really appreciate it. Raypeat.com, and you can click on the link and then it'll take you right to [email protected] if you'd like to sign up.
And they just send you an email and then you work it out with the folks, right? Who send you an email? [email protected]. Dr. Peat, happy painting, and we'll talk to you next month. Let us know if there's ever anything we can do for you and help you get any additional information out. We're always available. We'd have you on any time. - Okay, thank you. - Thank you, sir. Dr. Ray Peat, raypeatnewsletter.com. What a wonderful find to have this gentleman available. Thanks for all your great questions, boy.
You had some good ones today, baby, and we always do. Okay, we have Dr. Christine Northrup, who's quite an interesting lady. Sharon has put up a nice video of her on the front page of One Radio Network. So come by tomorrow, we're gonna talk to her. And then we're gonna dig into the world of finance and geopolitics. Paul Reiter, he says that five times in the last 90 years, five times in the last 90 years, let me see if I can read the whole thing, elements of US power structure have tried
to house a sitting president without an election. Five times, can you guess who those were? You guess? Five times. And then Brandon Smith, he's quite a fascinating fellow. I think his website is altmarkets.com. Yeah, Brandon Smith, he'll be here on Wednesday. Cool stuff coming up. I love you all very much. Thanks for your ongoing support. Been an honor to be here with you. We're getting closer, I think, to having the video thing tracking every day. So you can see the guests, and yeah, we're making some headway with that.
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